Draft monograph: semaglutide, version 3 — submissions
The 14 submissions received, published in full with declared interests and secretariat responses.
§2Submissions and responses
14 submissions were received. Each is published in full below with its declared interest, the secretariat response and the disposition. The Institute publishes submissions it did not accept in the same form as those it did.
A near-isobaric analogue is not distinguished by the identity determination described
The respondent read the draft on Semaglutide alongside the approved labelling for the class, and submits on one matter arising.
The identity determination described in the draft resolves the compound from unrelated substances but would not distinguish it from a closely related analogue whose mass differs by approximately one dalton.
The respondent proposes that the monograph state the resolution required for that discrimination, and state that a nominal-mass instrument reporting an integer mass has not made it.
The secretariat accepts this submission. The point is decisive where one member of a near-isobaric pair is an approved medicine and the other is not.
The analytical section now states the resolving power required to discriminate the pair, names the pair explicitly, and records that an identity claim made below that resolution is not conformant with the identity standard.
Local reactions are omitted from the adverse-event table because the trials reported them separately
This is a submission on the draft covering Semaglutide, from a respondent whose work is with the people taking compounds of this class rather than with the trials that produced them.
Injection-site reactions are reported in the source trials in a table of their own and do not appear in the systemic adverse-event table the monograph reproduces. The result is that the most common adverse experience of a subcutaneously administered compound is absent from the monograph’s adverse-event section.
The respondent proposes that local reactions be carried in the same table as systemic events, with the reporting convention of the source trial recorded in a footnote.
The secretariat accepts this submission. The omission arose from following the source tables and it produced a misleading total.
Local reactions are now carried in the adverse-event table wherever the source trials report them, footnoted with the convention each trial used.
Glycaemic trials and weight-management trials are drawn on interchangeably
The respondent has read the draft monograph on Semaglutide against a caseload in which incretin analogues are prescribed daily.
The compound has two trial programmes with different populations, different doses and different endpoints. The monograph draws on both without saying which programme a given estimate came from, so a reader takes a weight figure obtained at one dose in one population as though it applied at the other.
The respondent proposes that the programme be named against every effect estimate in the assessed-outcome table.
The secretariat accepts this submission. The two programmes are separable and were not being separated.
Every effect estimate now names its programme, and the assessed-outcome table is split where a compound has more than one.
The document should state what a reader ought to do
The draft on Semaglutide is a substantial document and the respondent has confined this submission to one matter.
The draft assesses evidence and stops. The respondent, a practising clinician, states that a reader arriving at the document with a decision to make is left to convert an assessment into an action without help, and proposes that each document close with a recommendation.
The respondent argues that other evidence bodies issue recommendations and that declining to do so transfers the difficult part of the work to the reader.
The respondent has read submission 001 above and makes this submission independently of it.
The secretariat does not accept this submission, and records that the point is a reasonable one rather than a misunderstanding.
The Institute assesses evidence and does not issue recommendations, because a recommendation embeds values and a resource context that the Institute does not hold and cannot state. That constitutional limit is published on the methodology page and is not varied by consultation. The submission remains published in full.
The pharmacokinetic section does not connect half-life to the dosing schedule
This submission concerns Semaglutide and makes one point.
The draft reports a half-life and, separately, a dosing interval. The respondent, a clinical pharmacologist, states that the relationship between the two is what determines accumulation and time to steady state, and that the monograph leaves the reader to derive it.
The respondent proposes that time to steady state be stated explicitly, with the assumption from which it was derived.
The secretariat accepts this submission. The derivation is short, it is decision-relevant, and leaving it to the reader invites it to be done wrong.
The pharmacokinetic section now states approximate time to steady state alongside the half-life and dosing interval, with the assumption of first-order elimination stated, and records where the assumption is not supported for this compound.
Quantitative claims are reproduced without the method that produced them
The respondent submits on the draft monograph for Semaglutide. The observation arises from teaching the material rather than from prescribing it.
Several figures in the draft are quoted from sources that determined them by different methods. A figure obtained by one determination and a figure obtained by another are not comparable, and the draft places them in the same sentence without distinguishing them.
The respondent, an analytical chemist, proposes that every quantitative claim carry the method that produced it at the point of use rather than in the reference.
The secretariat accepts this submission. Placing two figures side by side is an implicit claim that they are the same kind of quantity, and in the cases identified they were not.
Every quantitative claim now carries the determination that produced it at the point of use, and figures obtained by non-comparable methods are no longer presented in the same row or sentence.
The monograph should state what the compound costs
The draft on Semaglutide was read in full. The respondent notes at the outset that this class has an unusually deep randomised evidence base, and that a monograph on it is fairly judged against a higher standard than one on a compound with none.
The respondent states that a reader deciding whether to pursue treatment needs to know what it costs, and that omitting price makes the assessment less useful than it could be.
The respondent proposes that a price range be recorded for each compound with the source and date.
This submission is made by a respondent with a different professional interest in the outcome from the one behind submission 002.
The secretariat does not accept this submission. Price varies by jurisdiction, payer, presentation and date to a degree that no single figure could survive, and a stale price is worse than no price.
No price is recorded. The monograph records the presentations available and the regulatory status in each jurisdiction, which are the facts the Institute can verify and maintain. The submission remains published in full.
References should carry a persistent identifier for every cited source
Having reviewed the draft on Semaglutide, the respondent makes a single submission, on the view that one point put clearly is more use to the secretariat than six put together.
Several references in the draft carry a journal, a year and a volume but no persistent identifier. The respondent states that retrieval of such a reference is materially slower and that identifiers should be supplied throughout.
The respondent asks in the alternative that where an identifier exists but is not carried, the omission be explained rather than left as a gap the reader must interpret.
Submission 002 concerns the same document. The respondent’s point is a different one.
The secretariat accepts the second limb of this submission and declines the first. Identifiers are supplied wherever the Institute holds one. Where the Institute does not hold an identifier it will not supply one, because a reconstructed identifier that resolves to the wrong record is a worse defect than an absent one.
Every reference without a persistent identifier now carries an explicit statement that the identifier is not held by the Institute, so that its absence is a recorded fact rather than an apparent oversight.
The monograph should not describe how the compound is supplied outside a regulated route
The respondent works on cardiometabolic outcomes and read the draft on Semaglutide with that literature in view.
The respondent states that describing presentations observed in unregulated supply risks being read as a guide to obtaining them, and asks that the material be removed.
The respondent accepts that the information is accurate and objects to its presence rather than to its content.
The secretariat notes this submission and records the concern as a real one that the draft had already considered.
No amendment arises. The monograph describes what is supplied and names no supplier, price or route of acquisition, and it carries the standing statement that the Institute assesses evidence and does not recommend use. Describing a presentation a reader may already hold is the condition of being useful to that reader.
Mechanistic claims for a peptide fragment are carried without evidence that the fragment acts as described
This is a submission on Semaglutide.
The respondent states that the draft repeats a mechanistic account originating in supply documentation rather than in the primary literature, and that the account attributes activity to a fragment on the basis of the activity of the parent molecule.
The respondent proposes that any mechanistic claim be traceable to a primary source and removed where it is not.
The secretariat accepts this submission. A mechanism repeated from marketing material has no evidential status regardless of how widely it is repeated.
Mechanistic claims not traceable to a primary source are removed, and those retained carry their source and a statement of whether the underlying work was conducted in vitro, in animals or in humans.
Every contributing trial shares one sponsor and the monograph does not say so
This submission addresses the draft monograph on Semaglutide. The respondent went through the document twice, once as a specialist and once as a reader arriving without the background.
The respondent, who has published a systematic review of this literature, states that all of the contributing trials for the principal outcome were conducted by a single sponsor, and that this is a property of the evidence base rather than a criticism of any individual trial.
The respondent proposes that sponsor concentration be recorded as a characteristic of the evidence base in the certainty assessment rather than as a note in the discussion.
The secretariat accepts this submission. Sponsor concentration bears on what an independent replication would add, and the draft recorded it where a reader was least likely to see it.
Sponsor concentration is now stated with the certainty rating, and the monograph records how many independent sponsors contributed evidence to each assessed outcome.
The analytical section is longer than the clinical assessment it accompanies
This submission concerns Semaglutide and a convention used across the Institute’s output.
The respondent states that the analytical section occupies more of the monograph than the assessment of clinical effect, and that the proportions imply the Institute considers the analytical question the more important one.
The respondent proposes that the analytical material be moved to the standards series and referenced rather than reproduced.
This point is adjacent to the one made in submission 003 and the respondent puts it in a form the secretariat can act on.
The secretariat accepts this submission in part. The general analytical material is moved to the standards series and referenced. The compound-specific material stays, because a reader holding a certificate for this compound needs to know what that certificate does and does not establish for this compound.
The analytical section is reduced to compound-specific content and cross-references the relevant standards for the general procedure, which shortens it substantially without removing what is not available elsewhere.
Registered trials that never reported are absent from the monograph
This submission concerns the draft on Semaglutide. The respondent assesses incretin-class evidence for a national body and comments in a personal capacity.
The respondent states that the trial list appears to be drawn from published reports, and that registered trials which completed without a report are therefore invisible. The proportion of a programme that never reported is itself a finding about the evidence base.
The respondent proposes that every registered trial of the compound be listed, with its reporting status, whether or not a report exists.
The secretariat accepts this submission. A trial list built from publications reproduces publication bias in the shape of the document.
The trial list now includes every registered trial the Institute identified, with its reporting status stated, and the monograph reports the proportion of registered trials for which no result has been posted or published.
Open-label extension data are presented alongside randomised data without distinction
The respondent submits on Semaglutide, on a matter that is not specific to this draft but is visible in it.
Long-term figures in the clinical section come from open-label extensions in which every participant received the active compound and those who did not tolerate it had already withdrawn. They are printed in the same table as randomised comparisons and in the same typeface.
The respondent proposes that extension data be presented in a separate table, or at minimum in a separately labelled block, and that the surviving-population problem be stated once where it arises.
The secretariat accepts this submission. An extension estimate answers a different question from a randomised one and should not be read as though it answered the same one.
Extension data now appear in a separate table headed as uncontrolled follow-up, with a standing note on differential withdrawal.
References cited on this page
References are numbered in order of first citation in this document. Each superscript in the text links to its entry below.
- International Organization for Standardization. ISO/IEC 17025:2017 General Requirements for the Competence of Testing and Calibration Laboratories. ISO/IEC Standard 2017;3rd edition. identifier not held by the Institute
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